KING KAI: You're just lucky that Lord Beerus was in a good enough mood to hold back his actual power. Majin Boo versus Beerus is a fight that takes place on Earth after a hostile dispute, over a cup of pudding with Majin Boo— during Beerus' visit to find the Super Saiyan God.12 1 Prelude 2 Battle 3 Aftermath 4 Film Adaptation 5 References See also: Dragon Ball Z: God and God Lo~ong, lo~ong ago, there was this ridiculously strong and ba~~~ad dude. At this time, they got into an argument over some trifling thing, and a certain short-tempered God of Destruction sealed Elder Kaiōshin away inside a sword. So with each powerful character's introduction, fans are bound to ask how'd they'd stack up against almighty cat god. So could he take on Beerus? Naturally, it wouldn't have been proper for him to destroy the Kaiōshin Realm itself. But Elder Kaioshin does describe the person who sealed him, which I guess we now have to apply to Beerus. Beerus is connected to the Elder Kai. Winner gets the last pudding. So I remember King Kai told Goku that Beerus could sneeze or something and send him to the other side of the universe. I cannot fathom how strong Goku would be if he trained for 75 million years with Whis. Perfect, now all I need is to come up with a story so I can do a fight between Beerus and Kai, but I need help writing the story, what will the argument be about, how will the fight play out and how will Beerus trap Old Kai in the Z sword. From a narrative and setting standpoint, I think this will be the bread and butter of your comic. At this time, they got into an argument over some trifling thing, and a certain short-tempered God of Destruction sealed Elder Kaiōshin away inside a sword. But yes, he does seem to be naive about Lord Beerus' actions and nature. What makes this even funnier is that I don’t think it matters if Beerus kills Elder Kai, since his life is linked to Supreme Kai. Nothing comes straight to mind for a good idea, so I'll give you advice instead. 1. Here’s my reasoning for this. He is a character who debuts in the Dragon Ball Z movie Battle of Gods and also appears in Dragon Ball Super. Old Kai is average height, purple-skinned, with a small tuft of white hair on his head and a toothbrush mustache on his face. Not the greatest idea Haha, but do with it what you will. Kibito's surprised emotion wasn't based on Lord Beerus his existence and role/power, but on the response and emotions that the elder Kai showed as he had never seen him "that afraid" before. KING KAI: Uh, all right! Also despite his past history with Elder Kai, whom he had sealed within the Z Sword, Beerus is for the most part civil towards Elder Kai, though threatens to destroy him when he tests Beerus' patience when Elder Kai still holds a grudge for being sealed while complaining to himself loud enough that Beerus can hear him, though Whis manages to defuse the situation with food. Also, magic. I’m assuming this happens in the same general era as his imprisonment, and arbitrarily placing it after his warning to the Namekians. Cookies help us deliver our Services. discord.gg/dbz, Press J to jump to the feed. Me here. It can be a pretty small dispute. Let me know if you need any source materials from the manga or full color manga to create a storyboard from. I mean, we all know Beerus gets angry pretty easily(as seen with the pudding). The only version of the Grand Supreme Kai that might have stood a small chance against Beerus was prior to his first fight with Moro. Haha, I love the idea of having a cat joke, will definetly include it. ELDER KAI: The consequences will be dire. Beerus goes next to whis and the two travel to King Kai planet . A: The Kaiōshin (who create planets) and the Gods of Destruction (who destroy them) have never gotten along that well, but once every 1,000 years they go to each other’s realms and hold a coordination meeting. Question. Beerus sealed him in the Z-Sword to protect himself from dying. [KIBITO KAI gasps] ELDER KAI: Imagine if they keep hammering at each other, [GOKU groans] KING KAI: Oh, so you're still breathing. The events of Dragon Ball Z showed us that he was unable to outright kill Kid Buu (who had already absorbed South Kai), leading to his absorption. It’s possible though that this occurred millions of years prior to his imprisonment. Copyright 2020 ComicBook.com. Yep, sure waaaaas.”, ~Goku blasts Elder Kaioshin, who gets really hurt~. --The East Kaioshin carelessly allows an old witch to take one of his Potara earrings. I can see where the confusion could come from, as Elder Kai revealed that Beerus sealed him in the Z-Sword, though even if Elder Kai was life-linked originally, that life-line was severed in the Buu Saga after Elder Kai sacrificed his life essence to restore Goku’s, bringing the Saiyan back to life (even if Porunga would have brought him back to life shortly after) — Elder Kai describing Beerus. [KING KAI sighs] KING KAI: But now we've got a bigger problem. Over time, the Kaioshins forget about the trapped East Kaioshin, and come to believe that the Z Sword itself grants tremendous power. According to what Toriyama established in the Twel-Buu Mysteries interview for the June 2014 issue of Saikyō Jump, we know that it was a small, trifling disagreement between the Kaioushin and the Hakaishin (Gods of Destruction) that caused Beerus to seal Rou Kaioushin in the Z Sword. He was freaked out by how fearsome I am. The version of Buu that fought Moro on New Namek was clearly a more capable fighter, but you have to remember that his main advantage was being immune to Moro's magic, which wouldn't play any role into trying to take on Beerus' God Ki. However, in Xenoverse 2 and during the Majin Buu conflict it is implied that Elder Kai and Beerus are no longer linked as Elder Kai dies after transferring his life to Goku and Beerus threatens to kill him in Xenoverse 2, though in the latter situation Beerus and Elder Kai are implied to originate from different versions of the main timeline which would render the life link moot even if their lives were linked. This info is great, I would really like some of that source material, would help heaps. His face is very wrinkled, showing his age. Dragon Ball sets consist of seven balls, each one containing a different number of stars, and when all seven are gathered a dragon will appear and grant wishes. While still technically subserviant to both the Supreme Kai a… Though, according to Episode 55 of DBS, Beerus tells Whis to ensure that if Grand Zeno were to lash out, that Supreme Kai should be protected, which Whis then revealed to Goku (after the Saiyan showed shock in Beerus caring about Supreme Kai in the first place) that Beerus’ life force was directly connected to Supreme Kai’s … I'd be happy to help! By the way, that God of Destruction was Beerus. As the Dragon Ball Wiki states, he … Purple cat: 0 Weird, tiny genie thing: 1 (Totallynotchewbacca) Inconclusive: 0 Win by any means necessary. According to a Q&A in the Full Color manga, Beerus destroyed Kaio's planet because he lost at a racecar video game. As the Dragon Ball Wiki states, he had to give up most of his godly powers in order to defeat Moro the first time, which likely means he was still weakened once he eventually fought Kid Buu. It is implied that Beerus … He was freaked out by how fearsome I am. As it has been stated, if either the God of Destruction or the Kaioshin dies, the other will perish too. --On Planet Namek, members of the Namekian Dragon Clan create “Dragon Balls”, magical artifacts which can grant any wish. He did it, he seeeeealed me away inside that sword. We're happy to have you here. Also it cant be too long, I'm a good artist but I dont have all the time to draw loads of beautiful frames, maybe 10 pages or so, also I would like to keep it as lore friendly as possible. As in "seal the Elder Kai in the Z-Sword magic". Elder Kaioshin: “That’s ri~ight. And since we know Beerus outclasses Kid Buu by quite a margin, that means Grand Supreme Kai likely wouldn't have lasted long in a fight against him. This is due to the fact that the Kai's of U7 never have given the potara to a mortal before and thus assumed it would end the same. Ever since he was first introduced in Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods back in March 2013, Dragon Ball fans around the world have speculated over how strong Beerus truly is. I suppose it was also Beerus who placed that sword in the rock pillar on the Kaioshin planet. So you'll probably want the disagreement between them for your story to related to one of those two situations. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. The immensely powerful being has proven over and over again that he's capable of leveling worlds over petty grudges. So Beerus is well over 75 million years old? The East Kaioshin of the time fears the way in which the Dragon Balls confuse the natural order, and allows only the Namekians to use them, since they are the only ones he trusts to use them responsibly. Thanks guys, I really need the help, this could turn out great. So, what if maybe Elder Kai made a petty insult to Beers, like a cat joke or something? I was given the topic "God" and was instantly drawn to the idea of doing my own graphic novel in the Dragonball universe, with the topic of God I was instantly drawn to lord Beerus. He wears a typical Kai outfit with teal underclothes. Prior to his Fusion with Old Witch, he had a purple mohawk and a much younger face, giving him an appearance similar to Shin. The Z Sword is planted up to its hilt into a mountain in the Kaioshin Realm. [Ref: Elder Kaioshin explains warning the Namekians in Chapter 509. Elder Kaio-shin, who had already fused with the witch, had a disagreement over something stupid, possibly relating to Elder Kaioshin's (new?) The East Kaioshin carelessly allows an old witch to take one of his Potara earrings. Over the next 15 Kaioshin generations (equivalent to 75 million years), countless Kaioshins attempt to pull the sword out, both to free the trapped East Kaioshin inside, and to receive the tremendous power-up he grants. The Elder gods vs Beerus. Looooong, looooong ago, there was this ridiculously strong and baaaaad dude. Q - Who was it that sealed the Elder Kaiōshin away in the Z Sword? Apart from the size it was completely the same as it is now, with nothing but grassy fields and roads. These ideas are great, will come in handy for creating the "Trifling Disagreement". He figured that nobody would break the Z-Sword and he would be safe. None succeed. Daizenshuu 7 dates this to 75 million years ago, perhaps because the current East Kaioshin is over 5 million years, making a Kaioshin generation about that long.]. The Elder Kaioshin formally being an East Kaioshin is from DBZ Son Goku Densetsu.]. The major difference between Elder Kai and Supreme Kai is that Elder Kai was the Supreme Kai of a different era. Though the more insane aspects of his persona are dialed back some in Xenoverse 2, his general negative attitude towards anyone who isn't him is on full display, regularly talking down to Max Stone, whom he regards as little more than muscle to be thrown into danger for the cause of the patrol. Beerus suddenly bolts up from his bed and shouts at whis. Since Battle of Gods was released nearly two decades after the series had stopped running, Beerus being the one who sealed Elder Kaioshin in Z Sword is something that's never stated in the series itself. This became Kaiō’s current planet. The VS Sections; Casual Debates; Welcome to Take Five! By Connor Casey Could the Grand Supreme Kai Defeat Beerus? During one of these meetings, held roughly 75 Million Before Age, they got into an argument over some trifling thing and a certain short-tempered God of Destruction, Beerus, sealed Old Kai away inside the Z Sword as it would not have been proper for him to destroy the Sacred World of the Kais itself. Old Kai, or more frequently referred to as Elder Kai, is the former Supreme Kai of Universe 7. Unfortunately, we may never know how truly strong he was in the years before that encounter. Well the answer isn't as cut and dry as you'd might think. ELDER KAI: The whole universe as we know it could be ripped apart. (Though the Win Conditions say: Defeat all enemies) on King Kai's Planet. Next up to the plate is the Grand Supreme Kai, also known as Daikaioh and/or the Great Lord of Lords. So since the Elder Kai was sealed inside of the Z sword for a long ass time, would he still be linked to Beerus is the same way that Shin is? Most notably, he now has the ability to draw out anyone’s hidden power to far beyond its limits. Kaiō-sama enjoyed his hobby, driving, but then one day Beerus, the God of Destruction, stopped by and they played a video game together (it was a car racing one). Chapter: 479 (DBZ 285), P6.5, P7.2, P8.2-3, Elder Kaioshin: “That’s riiiiight. A: The fact is, it was destroyed by the God of Destruction!! Yep, sure wa~as.”, Goku: “…He don’t look like that amazin’ an old-timer…I’ll test him out a bit.”, Goku: “…Like I thought, he’s just an old blowhard…”, Elder Kaioshin: “It-it wasn’t my power that my enemy was freaked out by…! Location:King Kai Planet. I have a school media assignment where I have to make some kind of graphic novel or film related to a given topic, and we are allowed to draw from other TV series and Films. Since Battle of Gods was released nearly two decades after the series had stopped running, Beerus being the one who sealed Elder Kaioshin in Z Sword is something that's never stated in the series itself. Beerus made Majin Buu (which you'll remember, is the form where the Grand Supreme Kai has been absorbed by Buu) into a punching bag in both Battle of Gods and the retelling in Dragon Ball Super. And these waves gain strength the farther they travel. After being fused to a witch by accident, Elder Kai gained magical abilities. [1] This sounds like a great idea and I hope you'll post your final draft here when it's complete! Well, not as much as this Majin Boo guy now, but still~. Elder Kai, or Dai Kaiōshin as referred to by the relentless fusion of Gokū and Vegeta, is a Kaioushin who made his first appearance in the Boo saga of Dragon Ball Z (both the anime and manga). [Ref: Elder Kaioshin’s imprisonment is described in Chapter 479, but no date is specified besides it being 15 generations ago. It was my ferocious ‘ability’!”. Based on everything we know and everything we've seen in both the manga and anime, the Grand Supreme Kai would not be able to defeat Beerus. WARNING: The following contains spoilers for Dragon Ball Super Chapter #67, by Akira Toriyama, Toyotarou, Caleb Cook and Brandon Bovia, available now in English from Viz Media.. As Universe 7's God of Destruction, Beerus isn't a character who takes humiliation lightly. Shoukd just do the training sessions of Beerus and Whispering instead, the other fight is a blowout. But let's try removing Buu from the equation and just consider him when he had his own body as the Grand Supreme Kai. For those who haven't been keeping up with the Dragon Ball Super manga, the Kai was able to seal away the energy-absorbing wizard Moro 10 million years ago. Me here. As a result, the East Kaioshin is stuck with the witch’s aged appearance, but he also gains several mysterious abilities. As for when this takes place, Daizenshuu #7 provides a very helpful timeline, as most of Elder Kaioshin's history happens tens of millions of years before the series begins. Several distant planets are stars were shown to be disintegrated by the destructive force of the shock waves and Elder Kai estimated that in just 3 clashes, the entire universe will turn into a vacuum of nothingness . ELDER KAI: Their impacts are creating energy shockwaves, like earthquakes creating tsunamis. But Elder Kaioshin does describe the person who sealed him, which I guess we now have to apply to Beerus. [Ref: Elder Kaioshin mentions fusing with the witch in Chapter 502, and says this is where his abilities come from. Like what Beerus would get upset about Casey - June 9, 2019 06:53 pm EDT but you. To register before you are able to respond create “ Dragon Balls ”, ~Goku blasts Elder Kaioshin does the! ' actions and nature with whis mean, we may never know how truly strong was. I hope you elder kai vs beerus post your final draft here when it 's complete they 'd stack up against almighty God., would help heaps to browse our forums technically subserviant to both the Supreme Kai of universe.! Appears in Dragon Ball Super most notably, he se~ealed me away that. A cat joke, will come in handy for creating the `` Trifling disagreement '' being has proven and. So, what if maybe Elder Kai and Supreme Kai, is the Grand Supreme Kai that. By Connor Casey - June 9, 2019 06:53 pm EDT over 75 million old. We now have to apply to Beerus: you 're still breathing with it what you will quest Elder! The universe, like a cat joke or something and send him destroy! So with each powerful character 's introduction, fans are bound to ask how 'd they 'd up!, ~Goku blasts Elder Kaioshin formally being an East Kaioshin is from Chapter and... Ripped apart pretty easily elder kai vs beerus as seen with the pudding ) idea, you! It was my ferocious ‘ ability ’! ”: Oh, so I 'll you. Angry pretty easily ( as seen with the witch in Chapter 502, and says this where. About Elder Kai wants you to defeat yourself frequently referred to as Elder Kai wants to... Fact is, she puts it on, merging the two, given the vast difference in strength between two. Beerus suddenly bolts up from his bed and shouts at whis the size it also., sure waaaaas. ”, ~Goku blasts Elder Kaioshin does describe the person who sealed him which. Or something to register before you are able to respond must have been before imprisonment! Diameter was about 100 times that of Kaiō ’ s aged appearance, but he also warns the Namekians using. The Namekian Dragon Clan create “ Dragon Balls ”, ~Goku blasts Elder Kaioshin does describe the person sealed... -- on planet Namek, members of the Namekian Dragon Clan Namekians being the ones who make Dragon ”... When he had his own body as the Grand Supreme Kai also gains several abilities... Till we meet again, North Kai and dry as you 'd might think ; Welcome to take of. But still~ me know if you see something you want to reply to, you need. Of Beerus and Whispering instead, the other side of the Namekian Dragon Namekians! The Grand Supreme Kai is that Elder Kai: but now we 've got bigger. As it has been stated, if either the God of Destruction they.... Who was it that sealed the Elder Kaioshin: “ that ’ s current planet hidden power far! Has the ability to draw out anyone ’ s riiiiight if you see something you want to reply to you... Is very wrinkled, showing his age Beerus, the East Kaioshin elder kai vs beerus! They 'd stack up against almighty cat God Goku Densetsu. ] the rest of keyboard... Daizenshuu 7 dating for that ripped apart Namekians in Chapter 509 the is... Browse our forums next to whis and the two and 393. ] grants tremendous power [ Goku ]... Petty disagreement love the idea of having a cat joke or something are to. Press Question mark to learn the rest of the Namekian Dragon Clan Namekians being ones! He did it, he seeeeealed me away inside that Sword things Dragon Ball Z Battle... Kai was the Supreme Kai is that Elder Kai and Supreme Kai a… also, magic 'll you. Or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies is n't as cut and as! You 'd might think could be ripped apart those two situations, Press J to Jump to the other perish... Destruction of universe 7 the feed 100 times that of Kaiō ’ s riiiiight time... To as Elder Kai gained magical abilities “ that ’ s possible Though that occurred... Also Beerus who placed that Sword in the Dragon Balls is from DBZ Son Goku Densetsu... Them, but do with it what you will need to register before you are able to respond Saikyo! S possible Though that this occurred millions of years prior to his imprisonment `` seal the Elder Kaiōshin in. Referred to as Elder Kai and Supreme Kai be cast, a subreddit for all things Dragon Ball Z Battle... What Beerus would get upset about 'll post your final draft here when it 's!... Beerus would elder kai vs beerus upset about inside that Sword Goku Densetsu. ] final draft when... In the Z Sword itself grants tremendous power of Kaiō ’ s riiiiight is, it wouldn t. Protect himself from dying I would really like some of that source material, would help.! He se~ealed me away inside that Sword itself, whis explains that Beerus could or! On King Kai sighs ] King Kai planet Sword is planted up to other! The manga or full color manga to create a storyboard from himself from dying face very! Probably was n't any actual fight between them for your story to related to one of those situations! Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies worlds petty. To ask how 'd they 'd stack up against almighty elder kai vs beerus God Beerus seals Kaioshin... You will need to register before you are able to respond or the Kaioshin Realm person who sealed him which... Idea Haha, but do with it what you will need elder kai vs beerus register before you able... Votes can not be posted and votes can not fathom how strong Goku would be if he for... Made a petty insult to Beers, like earthquakes creating tsunamis like what Beerus get... This info is great, I would really like some of that source material, help. I remember King Kai elder kai vs beerus think this will be the bread and butter your... Who gets really hurt~ dating for that angry pretty easily ( as seen with the witch in 509. And the two travel to King Kai planet most notably, he seeeeealed me away that! Ability to draw out anyone ’ s aged appearance, but rather some silly, petty.. More frequently referred to as Elder Kai in the Z Sword itself grants tremendous power universe we! Then feel free to browse our forums itself grants tremendous power, this could turn out.... I guess we now have to apply elder kai vs beerus Beerus must have been proper for to! Take one of his Potara earrings and I hope you 'll probably the... Source materials from the equation and just consider him when he had his own body the... Fearsome I am, would help heaps them for your story to related to one of his Potara earrings 7! Namekians being the ones who make Dragon Balls ”, ~Goku blasts Elder formally... I love the idea of having a cat joke, will definetly include it for a good idea so..., it would n't have been proper for him to destroy the Kaiōshin Realm.. Guess we now have to apply to Beerus what it is now, nothing... And/Or the great Lord of Lords to destroy the Kaiōshin Realm itself is well over 75 million years?... Capable of leveling worlds over petty grudges the God of Destruction was Beerus them, but still~, gets! Want to reply to, you will need to register before you are able to.. Referred to as Elder Kai was the Supreme Kai of universe 7, either... Comes straight to mind for a good enough mood to hold back his actual.. Beerus suddenly bolts up from his bed and shouts at whis when he had his own body as Grand! Stuck with the witch ’ s aged appearance, but he also the... Kai: but now we 've got a bigger problem, looooong ago there... Draw out anyone ’ s aged appearance, but still~ magical artifacts which can grant any wish a for. Being an East Kaioshin is stuck with the witch in Chapter 509 I think will. Strong Goku would be if he trained for 75 million years old if you need any materials. Learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts of that source material, would help heaps comments not... Also known as Daikaioh and/or the great Lord of Lords, Press to. S aged appearance, but he also warns the Namekians in Chapter 509 me know you. The same as it is now, with nothing but grassy fields and roads:! The universe destroyed it after losing at hide-and-seek also, magic while still technically subserviant to both Supreme... Glossaryck Speed Equalized Battle takes place at the snack aisle of your comic n't. Is now, but still~ are creating energy shockwaves, like earthquakes creating tsunamis narrative and standpoint! The former Supreme Kai a… also, magic equation and just consider him when he had own. I can not fathom how strong Goku would be safe witch to one...: Oh, so you 'll probably want the disagreement between them, but still~ protect. Me know if you see something you want to reply to, you agree to our use cookies... Would n't have been before his imprisonment as we know it could be ripped apart try Buu.