One of the first Kais to make their presence known in Dragon Ball Z, King Kai has become an iconic aspect of the franchise for obvious reasons. Grand Kai promised training for both of them in 200–300 years. People might argue that a Zamasu that's been powered by the wishes of the Dragon Balls is way more powerful than Goku. There's going to be a massive inflow of various Gods of Destruction on this list, and for good reason — each and every one of them can single-handedly beat Goku to a pulp without so much as breaking a sweat. Ask any person about the show that got them interested in anime in the first place, and chances are that the majority of responses that you'll receive will either outright state Dragon Ball Z or refer to it in some way or the other. Olibu's first opponent was Chapuchai, a fight… Well, Dragon Ball Super issue 49 reveals just why Kid Buu was so strong - and it's a game-changing revelation, indeed! We never get to see them fight, unfortunately, but it looks like Toppo was absolutely nothing to Cumber who is absurdly strong. On the Grand Kai's Planet, Goku tells King Kai about Pikkon's strength. What exactly did he learn from the Grand kai? Several new original storylines are added to its continuity in the form of thirteen theatrical films, some of which are integrated into the main anime, and others following alternate timelines and scenarios. The person he attends to is on a whole different level altogether, and his name will be mentioned soon enough. However, the fact of the matter is that Old Kai turned from what could've been quite an interesting character into a running joke with little to no relevance in the grand scheme of things. However, his power level is not even close to Goku's current strength. It seems that being a Guardian implies the need to be an absolute weakling since Kami is the perfect definition of a pushover. I don't think we see him train with grand kai in the anime or manga. So in short, in the manga he never was even lined up at any point to train under the Dai Kaiou, and in the anime, he may get to train under him in a few centuries. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Although it is implied that goku became much stronger as a result of this training, I suspect, that this is when he achieved ssj3. i think that the fuss about grand kai should be there because if you think about it he is gana have some special powers and techniques. S. Kai … After all, just like his inspiration, Vermoud can certain go absolutely psycho if given the leeway to do so. There was a time when the almighty dragon Shenron used to be a force to be feared. And poking in the eye or hitting below the belt are plain mean and are not allowed. While these limitations might've decreased slightly over time, the fact of the matter is that Shenron is still woefully inept — especially when compared to the other wish-granting dragons. This is exactly the case with Helles, who — while propagating destruction — prefers things around her to be beautiful as well. He truly encompasses the word, "omnipotence.". It doesn't take a genius to make this statement — after all, this is nothing more than a simple correlation. However, the limitations of Shenron became painfully noticeable later on. He wears an orange knotted cloth around his waist, as well as the same navy and yellow waistcoat and purple cape as Fat Buu. So, if Vermoud can defeat Goku, then there's no reason to suspect why Marcarita can't do the same. Ever since the famed Tournament of Power, outside of Beerus, Whis and the Kai's, his groups interactions with the God's had become something of a rarity. Although it is implied that goku became much stronger as a result of this training, I suspect, that this is when he achieved ssj3. We say this mainly because of the fact that he wasn't even fighting at his full power during his battle with Goku in the initial moments of Dragon Ball Super. The rules are: "If you fall from the ring, start to cry, or give up you lose the match. After all, the idea of a god letting souls enter either Heaven or Hell is a highly enticing one that would raise the expectations one might have of this gatekeeper. Needless to say you can't kill anybody in this tournament cause they're already dead!" Grand Kai is considerably stronger than the other Kais, and is known to be the greatest fighter in the four quarters of the universe. As we've already mentioned before, the introduction of the Gods of Destruction means that pretty much any divine entity that had been introduced before have become moot. King Kai tells Goku that everyone must train for 10,000 years to earn a lesson from the Grand Kai. The fact that Vermoud is based on the characterization of Joker should be proof enough that this character is not someone to be taken lightly. This is perhaps the major reason why King Kai has taken a backseat to pretty much every fight — he's just not all that relevant in the grand scheme of things. Each and every anime series that attained worldwide popularity after Dragon Ball Z should ideally be thanking this show for providing them with this golden opportunity to become culturally relevant on a global scale. However, don't let that statement take away from the fact that this God can wipe the floor with anyone and everyone who might come in his way. The official TV adaptation of the Dragon Ball manga continuity, the main Dragon Ball Z anime follows a relatively similar plot to the manga, with Son Goku and his friends and children protecting the Earth from villains threatening to destroy it. In truth it had been quite a few years since Goku had seen the Grand Minister and the twin Zeno's. Thus, a Universe 6 exists with mirror copies of the entities in Universe 7. Unlike his canon self, the Grand Kai is known for executing immediate dangers the moment they present themselves, with gave him and his fellow kais a fierce reputation throughout their universe. Another God of Destruction makes his way onto this list — this time, it's the God from Universe 10. Goku is brought to Grand Kai in the beginning of the Great Saiyaman Saga by North Kai. If anything, Rumush is actually extremely lazy and finds it a massive bother to even destroy planets, in the first place. Grand Supreme Kai resembles the fat form of Majin Buu that his absorption would eventually create. However, that doesn't talk away from the fact that he is so incredibly pitiful that no one really counts on him in a tight spot. Kami, the God of Earth, is an alien with divine mystical powers who cares for the residents of his planet. Goku and King Kai go to the Grand Kai's planet, and upon arrival, they learn that Cell, Frieza, King Cold, and the four deceased members of the Ginyu Force are causing trouble in hell. He died when Goku accidentally turned into an Oozaru and crushed him underneath his foot. Grand Kai's Planet. If that's the case, then you know for a fact that the power of the Grand Minister is nothing to scoff at. There was a time when the Supreme Kai — also known as Shin — used to be the benchmark against which all power was measured. The introduction of Beerus in Dragon Ball Super was a revolution, allowing us to familiarize ourselves with a character who was above and beyond any power level we'd seen in the series up to that point. After all, the fact of the matter is that everyone in Earth was searching day in and day out for these Dragon Balls to attain their deepest desires. On one team are the original masters of the two schools, Miyagi Nariyoshi and John Kreese. However, that isn't even remotely the case when it comes to the Grand Kai, who is — similar to the other weaklings on this list — nowhere close to developing the aptitude to defeat Goku. It's quite a tragic fall from grace indeed, although no one can particularly gripe about it since the character wasn't all that memorable, to begin with. Dragon Ball Z Kai (known in Japan as Dragon Ball Kai) is a revised version of the anime series Dragon Ball Z, produced in commemoration of its 20th and 25th anniversaries. Power. Who'd think a God of Destruction would have such a dominant sense to observe and appreciate aesthetic design? He is considerably stronger than the other Kais and is known to be the greatest fighter in the four galaxies. The anime continuity also received a completely original and TV-exclusive seq… His outfit consists of the shirt and trousers usually worn by Supreme Kais but without the regal tunic-like garment over the top. Grand Kai's Palace. All gods of destructions minus Beerus start to shake in fear. Why wouldn't this be the case — after all, the fact of the matter is that Dragon Ball Z paved the way for anime to become popular on the Western forefront. Also like Fat Buu, he has squinty eyes t… King Kai watches over the north. The only time when he actually managed to do something useful also involved him being written off — in a bid to increase his power levels, Kami made the decision to fuse with Piccolo and promptly vanished. Speaking of which, there's one last divine entity whom we need to discuss. Don't let the appearance of this particular God of Destruction fool you — the last thing anyone should do is take Vermoud for granted since he would be more than willing to grind you to a pulp. If Vermoud is actually inspired by the Joker, then he's bound to have his own Harley Quinn, right? Grand Priest Goku and Jiren Vs. Cumber Cumber is still alive and Cumber wrecked Toppo. Anime HQ. Remember when we said that a powerful entity like the Grand Minister was attending for a certain someone? goku learned the fusion dance while he was with the metamarines after namek blew up. Whoo boy, at this point you might understandably be confused as to why someone as pathetic as Korin has made this list. Doesn't he admit to himself Goku is way stronger than him during that filler? Well, this certain someone is none other than Zeno, the ruler of the entire universe. And, you know what — you're absolutely right to expect this. Above these four is the Grand Kai. However, this perception has been completely altered with the advent of Dragon Ball Super. Every universe has its own mirror of sorts, and Universe 7 is no exception to this golden rule. When Goku and the East Kai have a race, the Grand Kai surprises the two of them by racing towards the exit before them even though he started much later, surprising Goku. While he did help Gohan achieve his Mystic form, this transformation was essentially quite useless at the end of the day and served to do nothing more than to make Gohan a highly irrelevant character who was an absolute drag to follow in battle. Maybe it's going to be a similar plot as the Kai having a rivalry tournament but instead between the gods of destruction in each universe. He can easily wipe the floor with Goku if he wishes to do so. Now Superman has some huge strength that is more then Goku, easily planet level and higher. Of course, that pretty much goes without saying since he's a destroyer, after all. Covering the hottest movie and TV topics that fans want. The whole object of the Budoukai in the afterlife (where Goku fought Paikuhan in the finals) was that the winner would receive special training under the Dai Kaiou. The planet is shown a few times in Dragon Ball GT, most often when King Kai appears in the series. He then states that he'll have a look at them in 200 or 300 years to train under him. Linking their lives is a little difficult if one of them is hundreds if not thousands of times older. "Okay seriously you guys have got to teach me how to do that." And when Moro escaped, the Galactic Patrol captured Majin Buu and reawakened the Grand Supreme Kai in order to help the patrol, as well as Goku and Vegeta, defeat Moro once again. You'd think that looking like and being designed after a mouse is a surefire way for any character to go down the drain in terms of power and relevancy. During the Other World Saga, the tournament was filled with powerful fighters with unique abilities. Goku is brought to Grand Kai in the beginning of the Great Saiyaman Saga by King Kai. Two different species. It's a sad tale of events that just goes to show how woefully underpowered Goku actually is in the grand scheme of things. So, in 2013, Kai got a new lease on life with 69 episodes based on the Buu Saga. In this case, the dynamic of the Angel being more powerful than the person they're attending to is simply not the case. He is considerably stronger than the other Kais and is known to be the greatest fighter in the Galaxy. Goku and Pikkon, a warrior from the west quadrant, are dispatched to deal with it. King Kai tells him there are warriors that can match Pikkon's strength. 1 Summary 2 Powers and Stats 3 Gallery 4 Others 5 Discussions Moro is a powerful wizard who threatened Universe 7 about ten million years ago. However, the Zamasu we're talking about is the one in the present timeline who couldn't beat Goku, no matter how hard he tried. Sigh... the sheer potential of this character should not be downplayed at all. Of course, there's the slightest possibility that this statement might not hold true with Ultra Instinct Goku, but — even then — it's highly unlikely that the Saiyan will be able to beat someone as powerful as Sidra, who has been shown to be quite fast and strong to boot. goku learned the fusion dance while he was with the metamarines after namek blew up. This show was so freakin' popular that — after substantial fan uproar for around two decades — Toei Animation finally decided to give in (and by giving in, we mean that they decided to earn as much money as humanly possible) and released a sequel in the form of Dragon Ball Super. How could it be possible to mention the God of Destruction Beerus without mentioning his attendant and the Angel who actually taught him everything he needed to know? Zamasu was one of the most intriguing antagonists around, and one might argue that his presence is one of the major reasons why the Future Trunks arc was such a major highlight of Dragon Ball Super — the antagonist was just so riveting. The God of Universe 9 would certainly be an imposing foe indeed. In either case, he's never trained under him. However, this is not even remotely the case. There was a time when the almighty dragon Shenron used to be a force to be feared. Slenderman vs Goku. it was interesting to get a hint of other universes. Loading... Unsubscribe from Anime HQ? Suddenly, the other three Kai's walk over to King Kai, making fun of him for being dead. You'd think that a person who looks over an entire Universe would find it in his best interests to develop his or her power to the point where it can actually challenge everyone in said universe. In fact, this character was so irrelevant that he wasn't even taken into consideration halfway into Dragon Ball Z. While much is not known about the Grand Kai, he is shown to be humble and relaxed persona to him, yet retains a air of authority around him (all of his fellow Supreme Kais look up to him). It ended in a draw between two fighters, Goku and Pikkon. Let's get Frieza saga Goku vs New 52 Superman. I don't think we see him train with grand kai in the anime or manga. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, A subreddit for all things Dragon Ball! As they finish walking, all of King Kai's students come out to greet King Kai and Goku. Featuring an elephant for a head, you'd expect this God to wipe the floor with anyone and everyone who'd even look at him wrong. Unlike the other Gods of Destruction who look like normal beings — until they whip out their massive power levels, that is — Giin is perhaps the only God who actually looks like a warrior, with rippling muscles and a physique that would make any bodybuilder jealous. By those 7 years, he was already mountains stronger than even the Supreme Kai. However, one should never underestimate a destroyer — while he might require Mosco to fight other Gods of Destruction on a level field, there's no reason why he can't destroy Goku in a one-on-one fight... especially if he uses his full power. Goku … Time to talk about the exact opposite of someone who's imposing. So, without further ado, here are 15 gods more powerful than Goku, coupled with 10 weaklings who aren't even fit enough to clean his boots. The go-to source for comic book and superhero movie fans. Goku looks at everyone around them, him, the gods and their angels, Majin Buu, Gohan and Hercule are the only ones who know the tragedy that is about to fall. His power proved to be so great that the Grand Supreme Kai needed to sacrifice his own godly power in order to seal him away. He learned the fusion dance from two members of the people of the planet Metamor during his seven years in the afterlife following the Cell Saga. Well, their parent is none other than the Grand Minister himself, who also happens to be the father of all twelve Angels that serve as attendees to the Gods of Destruction in their respective universes. The Angel of Universe 7 is an interesting person indeed. He was the one who taught the Kaio-Ken power to Goku after all. However, Shin's allure was completely eliminated by figures like Kid Buu and Beerus, who showed us just how overhyped the Supreme Kai actually was. 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